Talking to Cool People w/ Jason Frazell

Jesse Terranova - The Connection Creator, Travel Expert, Ironman Triathlete, Mediation Teacher

October 12, 2022 Season 3 Episode 39
Talking to Cool People w/ Jason Frazell
Jesse Terranova - The Connection Creator, Travel Expert, Ironman Triathlete, Mediation Teacher
Show Notes Transcript

Jesse shares his journey from working at a big 4 consulting firm to running his own successful travel business, the dark places he has been mentally and what he leaned into to move past it and the impact he cares deeply about that makes a big difference in the world.

"Seek beauty in everything you do."


Jesse Terranova is a Travel + Tourism Designer, Ironman Triathlete and Chopra Certified Mindfulness Meditation Teacher.

With nearly a decade of experience in professional services including consulting at the big four, one-on-one coaching and luxury travel advising, he has developed a well-respected reputation as a creative, resilient and compassionate leader.

Jesse is the founder of Connection Creators, a global community of people from all walks of life who travel together and value meaningful human connection. Jesse hosts unique and captivating travel experiences around the globe while keeping in mind that the integration of your enriching experience abroad with your daily life at home is a deep-rooted prerequisite for meaningful and lasting change.

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Jason Frazell:

My guest today and I'm really excited about this when we wouldn't try to make this happen for the last three months and yes, I have been the holdup here. It is Jesse Terra Nova. He is the founder of connection creators. I'm gonna have Jesse explain what that means in a minute. And also where he's coming in from. So Jesse, welcome. So glad you're here today.

Jesse Terranova:

Good to be here. Jason. Thanks for having me.

Jason Frazell:

Yes, Jesse. First things first. And this is, as you get to know, Jesse today. This is gonna be very aligned with his brand. Jesse, where are you in the world?

Jesse Terranova:

I'm in Portugal.

Jason Frazell:

Portugal, there's no hurricanes in Portugal.

Jesse Terranova:

None of that we do have some earthquakes every now and then in the earthquakes. But yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Jason Frazell:

Portugal, and it's a place I've never been. I've heard it's phenomenal. Well, I have a feeling you can maybe help me with that. At some point. If I can convince my wife that I'm going to head out for a little bit.

Jesse Terranova:

Yeah, I think so I think to interchange it with an LBI vacation one of these summers and come down here for a couple of weeks in

Jason Frazell:

there. Yeah, he'd be into it. LB Yes, that's right. I forgot, you know, about LBI. That's perfect. So Jessie, though, as I continue to be very vague here, Jesse, what is connection creators.

Jesse Terranova:

So connection creators is a global community of very passionate people. And essentially, we truly love to travel, we love everything about it. We look at it in a different through different eyes. I'm gonna get into that in a moment. But more than that we value meaningful human connection.

Jason Frazell:

Yeah, and I know we're going to talk a lot about this, because this is something that you are extremely passionate about. And it's core to your brand core to who you are in quarterback connection creators does. And it's in the name, which is perfect. Better to be clear, and clever, right? Absolutely. Right. To the point. This is what we do. Right? Yeah, exactly. So Jesse, let's get into it. What's something you nerd out about?

Jesse Terranova:

Something I nerd out of? That's funny, I think I haven't used other than to say autobiographies. I think ever since I was younger, I just love learning about people. And a couple of years ago, I actually read a book called How to lead, David Rubenstein. And he interviews some of the world's greatest minds, top entrepreneurs, top business minds, and just really goes into depth about. And of course, by the way, this is them some of the most amazing questions that you can ask people, very curious person by nature. He is, which is kind of aligned with who I am. And so that's why I really love some of the responses. And, you know, I think there's so much to learn about people and the challenges, they overcome the obstacles that come their way. And of course, some of their successes and their, I guess, thought process through life, which I really love to kind of break down and learn from so.

Jason Frazell:

Do you do you prefer autobiographies over biographies?

Jesse Terranova:

I think so. I think one of my favorites is Wilson Will Smith's he's one of my I love that guy. Just some of his stories and in that book, really, really powerful message. So I probably say autobiographies. Yeah.

Jason Frazell:

It's interesting, because I've read quite a bit of both, and it seems like it's, this is my own view on it. It seems like generally, biographies. Arguably do better than autobiographies unless you're really famous, like obviously, Matthew McConaughey. greenlights done extremely well, Will's done extremely well. So I think you have to be really famous for an autobiography to do really well, but a biography. I'm just thinking like Walter Isaacson is written what Albert Einstein, Steve Jobs. I think he's either written another one recently. But it's interesting. So you actually prefer to hear from it from the person slash their ghostwriter, because those Will Smith probably didn't write his own autobiography all by himself. Bathroom kind of didn't do that. But you know, they have a team of people obviously. But it is it isn't their voice and they do that but that's really cool. So is what is your all time go to autobiography like, who's what's the most inspirational autobiography you've ever read?

Jesse Terranova:

Well, it has to be Will Smith. I think. Mark Manson was hired to write his autobiography for him most men, right? Really, really cool. I love Mark Manson's books as well. And so yeah, what an honor that must have been for him to get to be like, Hey, I'm Will Smith here, my book so and in his book as well. He talked about how we'll we'll just call him and be like, Hey, you want to come out Formula racing and I don't remember where they were, but just some really crazy things. He would just fly mark out and they would do some most epic things on like a Wednesday afternoon. Just like with my life super Yeah.

Jason Frazell:

And Mark Manson is subtle art of not giving a fuck right. Am I right? Yeah, that's perfect because that he's not really known as like the biographer.

Jesse Terranova:

But that's been. Yeah. Is is interesting.

Jason Frazell:

Yeah, I love that. That's, that's super cool. Alright, so let's, let's move to talk about something that's inside of your comfort zone that you know other people either won't do or are resistant to do. And I'm going to take one thing right off the table for you right now, take two things off the table for you. Because I don't want to make this too easy. Traveling alone off the table, or traveling period. And public speaking because I know you speak. So what's your like, you're like crap, that was one and two.

Jesse Terranova:

That was yeah, that was literally what I was going to say. I think something that that I can look back on in my life, my mom amongst the 30,000 things that she had the refrigerator, all the magnets and photos and everything. She always had this one quote, versus I could remember and I never, I never really knew why until I asked her. But it always it always stood with me and it was a stranger, it's just a friend you haven't met yet. And that that always stuck with me. And part of what we're doing in connection creators is really having people step outside their comfort zone in massive ways. And I think a really big challenge for a lot of people is being able to talk with strangers. And it's something that I struggle with a lot. You know, whether that had been in high school, or even when I graduated, moved to New York City, and I think New York City was the perfect playground for me to kind of go out and just talk to random people and just learn about myself, learn about others, and be able to be uncomfortable in that scenario, and then gain confidence with it over time. So I'd say definitely talking with strangers, and you know, on our experiences, we'd love to have people come who don't know one another, and then kind of start from scratch and learn learn what each person has to offer who they are. And it's actually really cool. What happens over time. Yeah, when people are in that space.

Jason Frazell:

Yeah, I can imagine the other benefit to practicing talking to strangers as you get used to rejection. Because in New York, a lot of people are not going to anywhere, but especially in New York, they're gonna be like, they're like, What are you selling? What do you want from me? You're like, genuinely be curious. They're like, I know, you say you're genuinely curious. But what do you really want from me? Are you selling CDs? Are you selling CDs? Are you selling candy bars? Like, what are the what are the things you're going to try to sell me after you tell me that you just want to talk to me? You're from New Jersey originally? Right? Correct. Correct? Yeah. So you've been in the urine. You've been in the north urine northeast, kid. So you know that like, a lot of times talking to strangers, like not culturally, like the Fisher people.

Jesse Terranova:

It's not that it's not the way to go. And, you know, my mom worked in New York City. Now she's working from home, you know, after COVID, but she went to the city community for 20 years. And so I grew up going into the city and was really worth the culture and the people and not how angry people are. But I think just how busy people are running around rushing. And so yeah, I just it's interesting. I had to take a step back when I was living there. Yeah, just be like, this isn't the place for me. I love to practice mindfulness. And it's you can certainly practice in a place like that. It's just a little bit more tricky. And you'll you won't, you're not as it's not as common to run into people who do want to have that conversation with you. Yep, exactly. It's in Portugal around now. Everyone's looking to chat. It's nice.

Jason Frazell:

Yeah, it was Portugal and the beaches are much nicer there than they are in the Northeast. I would say so. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what I'm, oh, I'm really interested to hear what's something that's outside your comfort zone, Jesse. So what is it something that you are unwilling to do? Or you really don't want to do? And yeah, what, what's what's on the other side of that for you?

Jesse Terranova:

I think what comes to mind first, and it's so new for me, is dating in a serious relationship. For me, because I've been solo for almost a decade, just through my life, traveling and always kind of being on the go. I always find it challenging to you know, because long term relationships, long distance relationships are rather tricky. And so maybe I use that as an excuse, but I have been dating a girl for a few months here in Portugal, and it's definitely way outside my comfort zone. So just navigating that getting used to it. It's an interesting experience, but really cool.

Jason Frazell:

Yeah, what's been the most challenging part about it for you?

Jesse Terranova:

I think, for me, just adapting to only one person. And I guess the energy that is quite nice actually, because you don't have to throw energy out to multiple people. Bull, as you're like, in as you're dating and looking around and curious, but it is interesting to only focus on one person. And it is a lot of energy in that aspect of your life to communicate with that person and be vulnerable with that person and share emotions of that person also, in a way hold space for them, which I've never had to do before. And so now I'm like, Yeah, I'm How am I? How do I navigate this? And it's, it's, but you know what, I see that I see the long term value in it and the benefit and it's all I enjoy it. It's nice. So far, so good.

Jason Frazell:

Where did you meet her? I'm for how sorry, how did you meet her? You such as in Portugal? How did you meet her?

Jesse Terranova:

Yeah, we met through a mutual friend. She's actually from Brazil. And so she moved to Portugal. Pretty much the same time that I moved here. We both moved here alone didn't know anyone looking for the Portuguese residency. So it was really cool. We met. I have a similar intention. So it just ended up working out.

Jason Frazell:

And she speaks the language fluently.

Jesse Terranova:

Yeah, Brazilian Portuguese is a bit different from Oh, it is? Yeah, actually very different, I'd say. And Portuguese is an extremely challenging language to learn. Even the locals here will tell you that so you know, I'm trying my best, but it's not easy. Definitely. Yeah.

Jason Frazell:

Yeah. All right, Jesse. So you speak I know, you speak at places you go on podcast, you go on virtual summits, where I speak live, then you're speaking all the time that people come and hang out with connection creators. So if I give you five minutes, and everybody in the world gets to hear your message, what are you going to talk about? And then what do you want us to do at the end of that five minutes

Jesse Terranova:

I would say the value that travel can have on your life is so incredibly significant. And there's a before a during, and I would almost argue that the after is one of the most important parts of your travel experience, right? I think, beforehand, you know, I think you can absolutely increase your levels of your mood, and your excitement. By looking forward to an experience I have planned, right, everyone gets excited I have, you know, I have a vacation coming up in a few months. And so that kind of helps to get you through perhaps the difficult times of the day or the week or the month. Because you have something exciting to look forward to, we all get excited when we have something on the calendar look forward to, I think during the experience is a really interesting, take that, you know, we like to look at it, as you know, looking at it through an intentional and deliberate way, and being mindful and present to each and every experience that you have, essentially. And you know, you can go to Paris and go take a selfie in front of the Eiffel Tower. And there's nothing wrong with that. But that's not the type of service or experience that we want people to have. It's more it's deeper than that. It's really getting involved in the cultures. And you know, the eyes through the experience through the eyes of the local, through native is the best way to experience the destination. So really getting involved with the culture, the people who are there, the things that they do their customs, their traditions, can be very valuable. And of course, just being residents and kind of removing all the things that bring you stress, or that aren't, you know, bringing you joy, you can remove those present in that very moment. And then I'd say, you know, Jason at the end is really interesting. I think I see it as a big problem in the marketplace of, you know, you go on these experiences, you know, we all travel right, I think I can say that constantly, most of us enjoy traveling to some capacity. Yeah. And I would say a lot of the time you're setting inside your comfort zone, you're meeting new people, you're trying new things, you're, I would say living your true authentic self. Because you're at your happiest you feel joy and you're not working and you're excited, right? Unfortunately, what I've noticed, and me myself is, you know, when I come home, from my childhood experiences, I'm still extremely aware and mindful of this now. But I used to really just take that experience and put it in the closet. And just fall back into the rut of life. Never take anything I learned or experienced with me on my journey moving forward. And so the integration of your enriching experience abroad with your daily life at home is a prerequisite for meaningful and long lasting transformation.

Jason Frazell:

And thinking about my experience of travel generally, and I wish I was still doing that. Like when I'm back at work, I actually am somebody I love what I do, but even then, like it'd be nice to be on vacation or like I always have regret that it wasn't longer or something or I could have done that one other thing. Maybe you and I need to talk offline, maybe maybe there, I think there might be something here. That's really cool. You reminding me of another guest here on the podcast, Sam Patel, who's the founder of well traveled, which is a really cool travel app and travel community as well, that has a similar vision. It's definitely somebody that think you would want to connect with. But it's tech. It's tech based. So she's a tech founder. Very cool stuff. Yeah. All right, Jesse, thank you so much. So far, we're gonna take a really brief commercial break, we'll be right back.

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Jason Frazell:

All right, Jesse, and we are back. So what do you want us to know about you?

Jesse Terranova:

I'd say what comes to mind, for me is an interesting story. If you're okay with me sharing that?

Jason Frazell:

Well, no, but go ahead. Yeah, so I love stories. No, but since you asked permission, then yes.

Jesse Terranova:

I think it's interesting, too, because we did touch on New York a bit. And a little bit of the lifestyle that I was experiencing, there was, you know, this fast pace. And I think at the time, I wasn't truly living out the life that I wanted to, I think, you know, it was something that I went to school to, you know, receive a degree in accounting and finance. So I went to New York City, I thought that's kind of what I was supposed to do and get this Yeah, PricewaterhouseCoopers and work my way up in the company and all that kind of stuff. So I think when I was sitting in my desk, or at my desk in New York City, I really just didn't enjoy. Yeah, the nature of the work specifically, but just the environment that I was in, really felt limiting. So I decided at that time to move out to San Diego and kind of pursue a career within travel within hospitality in the service industry. And, you know, unfortunately, I thought that I could do it on my own. And I didn't use the support that I probably should have, at the time, whether that had been friends or family back home, I did not go out of my way to meet people there. That would help me, I guess I was, I didn't really know, you know, as my first time moving, not living, you know, your home and just kind of all across the country all by myself didn't know anyone. So it was definitely a big challenge. But, you know, during that time, I fell into a really deep and dark state of isolation and loneliness. And it's something that's always really stuck with me, because that was a time I liked when I truly hit rock bottom. And it was scary. And I didn't allow anyone to come to my aid to help me and I think that particular moment truly stands out. Because even pre COVID You know, these these types of stories you hear of people who feel this, this low energy and don't want to get out of bed and just don't feel wanted, whatever it may be for you. For me, I just felt like maybe I perhaps I didn't matter and I just was lost and have a sense of direction, no purpose. And so through that experience, I've now have kind of seen some friends and family experiencing it. You know, I had seen them during COVID and now in post COVID How much of a you know, I'm talking about pandemic and epidemic but I think, you know, loneliness and isolation. Now it's almost a bigger killer than obesity. days and it's it's really scary. Jason I found myself one night in San Diego as I was, you know, really trying to overcome these feelings and these thoughts. You know, on the on the Coronado Bridge and San Diego really driving over it thinking should I jumped up a notch I'm really not sure where I was what I was doing. And you know, it was interesting because I came across a red light that stopped me right in my tracks. And it was really interesting because, you know, I look up and sure enough, I see Terra Nova drop, my last name is on the street sign. And so that really caught my attention and stopped me in my tracks and I look to my right and it's just you know, like what is going on here? It's in the evening. It's done. Are ya? And I'm crying. I'm trying to figure out what the heck is going on and look to the right. She's big shopping center. So that's that. I look to the left and this road that leads up into like the darkness. And I'm like, Okay, I guess I'll play along here. So I'll make a left on turn overdrive. And I start driving up this road. And sure enough, I look down on my GPS and I see Terra Nova Park. And so, you know, my mind is telling me, you should probably go check out Terra Nova Park. So I go into this development. And this uncanny feeling comes over me soon as I make a left on the street. So I've been to this place before. I know it well, but I'm in San Diego. I've never been here before. And so sure enough, I start driving. As soon as I arrived at terminal, the park, I parked the car, I looked around, and it's this big field. You know, a baseball field, a jungle gym, you know, just a really cool Park. Any other part, but very, very familiar. Very, you know, a place where I've been before. And sure enough, I look up a couple of seconds later. And I see Parkside court, right across from terminal, the park, you know, a little development right there. And for your audience. Parkside is the development that I grew up in, in New Jersey, and my parents still live. And the park resembles where I grew up. So, you know, there's a lot of takeaways from that type of experience. I it took me a little while to really look back on that, but it wasn't one wasn't two, but it was three signs to really, really grabbed my attention really helped me to see that I have a really strong connection, whether that be spiritually or, you know, mentally emotionally with something right. And so I kind of went on this journey through the years to create that connection. And, you know, it's, it's interesting, because I've spent a great deal of time working on my mental capabilities, my mental emotion, my physical emotion, whether that had been through the Ironman Zilla competed in or just you know, working out staying in tip top shape, but it wasn't until, and I'll it's I haven't shared this yet, because it's really new. But I think it's worth sharing. Just a couple weeks ago, I was in Porto, Portugal, and I had visited this church wasn't on the itinerary. But I saw that it had like 80 pounds of gold in it very old church built in the 1700s. So I saw some photos. And I said, Okay, sounds cool. Check it out. And so I walk in here, and, you know, I looked down and it says, Tree of Jesse. And so I'm like, What is going on here? This is. And this is the linkage between that story and this story that yeah, my name, it's, it's really powerful. And I'm really trying to reflect on this, but it's like, this is really interesting. So anyways, I walk into this church, you can go there now it's called San Francisco church in Porto. Portugal, but you know, it's essentially the lineage of Jesus Christ and Jesse who was King David's father, yeah, yeah, and your, your audience, you know, read the Bible or know anything about it. But essentially, I'm looking at this, this tree, and I'm in this right place the right time. And, you know, when I read about it, it talks about how, you know, the wisdom and the support and the guidance grows from and so Jesse, you know, I'm giving you a physical representation of it. It's, you know, creating this in 1717 beautiful sculptures, a man with a beard, this is really funny. And then the tree and branches growing out of him 40 generations of lineage up to Jesus. And so yeah, just like this is really interesting. Jason, I'm like, I have to really take a step back and start reflecting and really doing some some thinking here because, you know, I learned Jesse means God's gift. Yep. Terra Nova means new land. And so yeah, it's, it's an interesting connection there. So I guess my point is saying about the mental and physical connection, it really, you know, you can you can really go out there and try and create that connection, and, you know, work hard on your health, and work hard on, you know, in your career and in some of the skill sets that you have. But for me, if I fall down, I get back up, I fall down and get back up. But if I don't have a strong connection spiritually, then there's no way that I'm going to be able to overcome those obstacles and challenges mentally, emotionally physically ecstatic for me to begin spiritually. And that's the message that I wanted to share yours. Yeah, that's for me really coming to light in my life. So it's really interesting.

Jason Frazell:

Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful story. I was just just having this conversation with someone, yesterday, whether you you know, like whatever your belief system is, we'll keep it agnostic. I really am firmly convinced that my 44 years of age, that the universe if we are open to it, the universe conspires for in our favor. If you are open to it, universe, God, whatever it is, people believe the audience believes that there's, there is something there that if you just pay attention, and you're open, it will, things will happen to you. And it sounds like for you, Jessie, are very in your face. Like, it's like, you know, for some people, they're like, I have this gut feeling or like, there's this thing for you. They're like, Dude, there's your name. There's the name of the place you're born. And like, there's where you were raised. And then there's your first name, like how much more clear out to make it that there are messages for you here, like, you're getting the bolt, you're doing the bullhorn version of it. Like, like, if you don't pay attention to this, then you are literally blind. That's an amazing story.

Jesse Terranova:

My friend made me laugh last week, and I'll share why. But, you know, as I'm creating, you know, my, my business and my brand, and really growing it out with our experiences, we're really having impactful. I'd say the feedback from some of our guests have been very transformative and impactful. So the work that I'm doing is very connected with, you know, helping and supporting people, and really helping them step by step of comfort zone and make true meaningful, lasting changes in their life. And so my friend goes to me, it's funny, you're doing this work, and these messages and signs are coming up. It's not your and no disrespect, but it's like you're a plumber living in Arkansas, like your your any means. So that yeah, you should probably pay attention to this. Yep.

Jason Frazell:

You know, just pay attention. Yeah, yeah. Awesome, Jesse. All right. Next up, I want to see what question, would you like to ask me that I can answer for everybody here. Including you. What would you like to ask me?

Jesse Terranova:

I'd say, you know, I love your podcast. I think it's really cool. And we met with with BBG. And I just very curious, what is your definition of a cool person? Yeah,

Jason Frazell:

I have answered this before. And I love answering this question. I am a fellow. I'm a Yep, I'll answer this. And I make it pretty, I'll make it brief, what put me on a clock or we'll be here all day. I am also a very curious person. So I think what makes people cool is when they're doing the things that they're passionate about, I don't really care what those things are, and that are aligned for them. So, you know, I get this a lot people are like, Oh, I'd like to be on the show. Because it's like to cool people I've interviewed you are, you are interview 141 on this show. And I think every single one of the people that I've had on are cool. And I want to say that. And if I could give you the the gradient of life experiences and like ages and what they do, and the money they've made, or the money they don't make or their experiences, it is, I mean, I've got a sample set over here now of podcast guests that are pretty much almost every walk of life in some way, shape, or form, or have gone through a whole lot of things. And what makes people cool is that they're willing to share their true self. I think that's what makes people cool. And, yeah, that's that's kind of it. It doesn't mean, you know, like, it doesn't mean and you will probably know this better than I would as somebody who runs experiences with strangers that get together, it doesn't mean that all of us have to get along perfectly or that we agree on everything, or that we are that we even need to be friends at the end of the day, right? Like what I do believe is cool is when people are willing to be themselves and say the thing and what I also think is really cool. And one of the things I love about doing this podcast, which is why I still do it is when people are willing to look outside of what they know to be true for them and actually be open to something else. Which to me, I bring this back around to what you do travel is arguably almost to me not even arguably, it's actually the best way to do that. Because if I'm if I'm a I'm a good old boy from Minnesota who moved to the east coast and then I go and travel to a country where all the customs and culture cultural things that I know that I know how to do and know how to operate very well inside of and it doesn't apply. That's a humbling experience. So I get to get curious about what would be the way and I don't know if you do this at connection creators are not like you know, a almost like an advocate, hey, we're going to take you to this place and in this place. The thing that you that you know works in the United states are even in your area of the United States. It actually is not a thing that we do in this part of the world. And be humble about it and be curious and learn how other people live to me is like the best way to access. True coolness. So yeah, that's, that's, that's what I see is cool. That's what I have people that. So I have this person I want to put on your show, and I'm not sure if they're cool enough. I'm like, what do they do? Like, who are they? I'll be like, No, and I'm like, why would you say that? To me? I'm like, Who are they? Oh, they do this my great. We'll have a fun conversation. If they're willing to have a fun. That's the barrier to be on my podcast is, are you willing to be authentic? And have a fun conversation? If the answer is yes, it's highly likely I'm gonna want to have you on here because we were like, I don't know. And I'm like, That's just you. pooping on yourself. When you say things like, right? In your own way, in your own way. Like, I'm cool enough, like, yeah, maybe not? I don't know, it depends. Are you gonna come on and rattle off a script? And that's not cool for the audience? Are you willing to come on and have a fun conversation and be yourself? Awesome. Great question. I've never answered it that way. So thanks for opening up something for me.

Jesse Terranova:

I love that what I'm hearing from you is how much you value, curiosity and open mindedness. It's really powerful,

Jason Frazell:

very core to what I do in my profession, also very core, to who I want to be in the world. And it's becoming, you know, it's really interesting, I'll just share this really quick, before we get back to you is I'm, I'm having the opposite of experience of what I thought would happen as you get older, I'm actually becoming more open minded. And a lot of somebody Oh, as you get older, you get closer, close minded your belief system, I'm finding the opposite to be true, which is really delightful. It's much more peaceful and fun. And again, like, this is what I believe. And you know what, maybe it's not 100% accurate. And that's cool. Like, I don't have to be versus like being so set in the way that the world works, or that the how people need to be. So it's been, it's been a really nice experience for me. And it was on it's been unexpected, but I think it's also, from all the work, I've done all the personal development work and just like looking outside of the, you know, looking outside of the way that things should be or could be or how it's supposed to go. And like you said, like you said, I want to get an accounting degree. And then I went to work in New York City at a big at a big four consulting firm, of course, because that's what you're supposed to do. Right? And then you're sitting at your desk, and I know that office, well, as a good friend, as a partner. There are a few people that work at that office, and they sit there and you're like, This sucks. This is not what I'm here for. This is not what I'm gonna be on this planet for I don't want to be here. But I like the paycheck. Right? All right, Jesse. So what are you passionate about? And you're a very passionate individual. So I know that this is we could be here all day, you're like, well, let's see. We can have what do you got cast on this? Exactly? Well, that'd be come back on, I'll just ask you this one question. And we'll we'll roll with it. I'm a passionate guy to think it's why we get along, but Well, yeah, what are you passionate about?

Jesse Terranova:

Yeah, I think similar to you, Jason. Just I think personal growth, striving for progression in my life. You know, learning expanding my mind, my body, my capabilities, in the things that I I'm curious about, like yourself, I think it's funny, you brought up travel in that sense of, you know, we, when we travel, it's so funny, I think you'll learn pretty quickly that we're all really trying to save to solve the same problem, same some some of the same problems, right? So I'm gonna say things that we experience in life, but there are many different ways to go about that. Many different strategies, different tactics, different ways to view it. And so when you take yourself out of your own, I guess I'd say mold limitation is the things that you know, if you're so set on one way, you know, open minded to it, you're never going to learn other ways to do things. So yeah, that's you know, I'd say really passionate about learning new ways of doing things and of course just striving for like I said, there the key word was progression. I've definitely a recovering perfectionist and progression I think is a better word a better use of Yeah, because you know, we're always changing never the same from moment to moment. So thank God you open minded I guess.

Jason Frazell:

Yeah, the world's always changing man. And yeah, man also say like, nothing will knock out your like OCD or not you didn't say OCD, but if somebody has like that, or somebody that really like a type A like really has to have it a specific way. Nothing will knock that out of you quicker than then working in travel is the most unpredictable especially like it's just unpredictable. Going to other countries like things get screwed up all the time. So many lines are wrong. Oh, so many things go wrong. Yeah, it's like like you actually know that but but that's the that's and that's part of the thing with is what I know you do is Like, things might go wrong, but we're here together and it's gonna go wrong. We're going to create something new versus, and yeah, like flight delays suck and overbooked hotel like that stuff all sucks. And, man, that must be really difficult if you just are the type of person that has to have it all under control all the time. Because there's so many things out of your control. I wanted to ask you something about the personal development stuff. Is it ever going to be enough?

Jesse Terranova:

I think I'm happy where I am currently. And I'd like to always remember that. Hmm. Yeah, that that I am happy with where I am. I don't compare myself to anybody but who I used to be. And so that keeps me that keeps me patient. That keeps me from freaking out, like, Oh, my goodness, like, Did I not? Did I not do what I'm supposed to? Or am I not good enough. But I know that as long as I'm continually growing each and every day and learning and expanding my mind and taking the time to exercise not only my body, but my brain, my mind? Yeah. Then, then yes, I'm growing. And I'm in line with my values. And I shouldn't really shouldn't be any cause for concern.

Jason Frazell:

Oh, yeah. I love that. Yeah, that's a that's an that's a question to ask a lot of clients. Is it ever going to be enough? Because for some people, it's not. Because they're, it sounds like you're doing just because you want to be the best version of yourself. Some people don't want to be the best version. So they want to like have the edge. And I think you see this a lot. And this is a thing in New York City. I mean, it's the thing in American culture is like, what's the edge? What's the next thing that I'm going to learn or know how to do that's going to give me the edge, it's going to help me get ahead how we make more money helped me be more successful, help me be, quote, unquote, happier, be in love, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all those things. And that's where the danger of and then I'm just going to my little soapbox, this is where the personal development space can get dangerous, in my opinion, because it's like, oh, this is the next course or this is the next thing. That's going to be the thing that's going to open it up for me, then I'm going to have what I want. And like you said, it's never going to be enough. Unless it's like inside of you that you are you need to be like you said patient but also satisfied with where you are and striving for not like relating to yourself as, oh, I'm broken, or I don't have enough. So therefore, it's always go, go go. And then what's very predictable. That is it's never enough. I

Jesse Terranova:

think there's a healthy way to go about it. Healthy Weight, things to obtain, you know, I think it is yeah, it'd be like, Oh, I can do this. And that and I can get that promotion, or I can be Yeah, totally her husband, whatever. Like total, it's just there's a way to go about it. That is in a healthy, healthy way. You know?

Jason Frazell:

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So Jessie, what's the thing you're most proud of?

Jesse Terranova:

Honestly, some of the impact work that we're doing, Jason, it's, it's been really awesome. I, when I was in Brazil, earlier this year, I had the opportunity to visit a fella. And for those of you who don't know, for your audience, it's a very, very, you know, poor poverty stricken area of Brazil, their call footbed was little neighborhoods, a little dense, concentrated areas, lots of people live, but very, very sad. And one of my friends, I've always loved kids, I've always loved children my whole life. And I always love giving back. And so I had my friend set me up with you know, just to head over to a nonprofit NGO to hang out with the kids for the day, make some food, you know, just spend some time with them. So we went out there and little did I know that they're now a partner organization of connection creators, we you know, we did it monthly. And, you know, another organization on Pakistan. I had received this message on Facebook, which is so bizarre, but I decided to go ahead and send over $100 Last Christmas just because it seemed legitimate. It was I was talking with a community activist Her name is Sonos living in Pakistan, no joke, and I sent it over. And sure enough, I get a response back a couple of days later. And it's so easy to send money nowadays, money nowadays I use MoneyGram. Yeah, MoneyGram. Yeah. And like a day, it's brilliant. And so I get no joke. I get a couple days later, I get a video of all the kids holding a banner with my face on it. They got to face a picture. And they're just holding it and they're all gone. Thank you. Thank you. And it's just I had tears in my eyes. I was unbelievable. That Wow, something like that could happen. And so yeah, it's that was part of the impact work we're doing. I'm competing in an Ironman in two weeks in Portugal here and doing some fundraising. So we've been able to raise some some some money for the kids. We want to expand the space for them. Make sure they have meals every day. And so that's something definitely that I'm really excited about not renewing.

Jason Frazell:

Awesome. What's something you're afraid might be true about? You welcome to therapy.

Jesse Terranova:

Yeah, great question. You know, I look at it, I really have been enjoying all aspects of myself. And I think it's interesting, the, you know, there's almost two sides to us. There's, you know, the side when all things are going well. And then there's the side when things aren't going so well, and we're overwhelmed. And it's almost as if like, another person comes out of nowhere, and really tries to knock you down. Maybe that's the part of you that's trying to keep you safe, right?

Jason Frazell:

Yeah, but I think they Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Jesse Terranova:

But I think I've made a concerted effort to really acknowledge and be aware of that person that comes around when things get get tough. And when negativity comes in, and when things aren't going the way I'm supposed to. And so I've been enjoying that. That individual, whoever that is that person that comes that feeling that thought that really tries to overtake my mind. And, you know, instead of trying to take it and put it under the rug, or forget about it, like, oh, it's not there, like I actually experienced it, and I see, see what it's doing there. And I just kind of work through it, right, I guess, is the way to go about it. And, you know, different tactics I use. But I think my point is, you know, I'm afraid that's true, because that's really something I've always wanted to overcome. Yeah, the challenging side of life. And you know, who shows up during that time.

Jason Frazell:

Like making friends with the dark side, like making friends with the dark, or the less, you know, joyful, or the thing that maybe internally to create less feeling emotions that are a little more uncomfortable. Just to say it out loud. I think, for men, that can be a real thing. Like, oh, I've got these like to get an it sounds like you've really gotten in touch with that emotional part of you that we all have that a lot of us don't like to admit is there. And what ends up actually happening is it ends up showing up externally, and creates damage, especially in relationships.

Jesse Terranova:

Absolutely, it's, someone's, if you're traveling, I always love to relate it to that. But when you're in the air, and you experience turbulence, yeah. Now there's a couple of ways that you can you can I should say, respond. I was going to say react.

Jason Frazell:

Yeah, respond. Yeah, yeah. But it's

Jesse Terranova:

interesting. I think those times, you know, that's going to happen. And, you know, it's going to be there. At some point, you're going to, you know, the trials and tribulations, the challenges, the obstacles, the times that your expectations are not met. And there's a way that you can go about responding to that. And there's also another way you can so I think, being optimistic and kind of working through those challenges can definitely make for a better future if you do it in that way.

Jason Frazell:

Yeah. I love this next question for you. How do you see the world? Let's talk philosophically, because I know how you I know how you literally see the world as you like, well, I hop on a plane a lot. And I go to these amazing places that make Jason jealous because Jason has two young children. But that's this is my therapy session, right, Jesse? You can you can sit and listen to me, but no, like, yeah, how like, philosophically, how do you see the world and you're a world traveler? So this is a great question. You know, both literally, but also like, how do you see it as your you've experienced so much, and help others experience?

Jesse Terranova:

I think optimistically and similar to JSON, very open minded and curious, I've always been very curious by nature. I love asking very thought provoking inquisitive questions when I'm with people. I also love asking myself those same questions. And I take some time to journal a bit and kind of figure out what my response would be to those things. And a lot of the time used to be like, oh, yeah, I write that down and do it later. But I like to do it now. You know, I think taking the time to do those types of exercises is really valuable. But yeah, back to your question. optimistically comes to mind. Because like I said, there are going to be challenges and when you remain optimistic during those experiences, yeah. It's almost as if the bad things negative things don't really even happen. Because you're responding in a way that doesn't affect you. Yeah, or at least you I've tried to allow it to affect me seeking it out. I

Jason Frazell:

love that. That's, that's powerful. Let's, um, let's talk for a minute about connection creators. And I also something you said, I want to add this to the show notes. I'd love to put any charities that that you're working with as links in the show notes as well. I would I have a feeling that the impact you're working on is something other people might be interested in learning about and potentially donating So tell us about connection creators. How can people find out more about it? How can people connect with you? I know you're a big Instagram you got like, you got some FOMO Instagram going on over there. I see some of your stuff. I'm like, wish I was jumping in a waterfall over and wherever this place is not you know sitting in working today without being an without being a total travel influencer is pretty cool stuff. But yeah, how can people connect with you? Like, where can they connect with you? And then also Yeah, spend a minute on any charitable work that you've done or that you're currently doing you think people will be interested in potentially donating for?

Jesse Terranova:

I appreciate that tradition. I think starting with connection creators, you can go visit connection creators.com. That's our our main site where you can learn more about me the type of experiences that we do host. We do have an upcoming experience to Argentina in December going to Patagonia, so it'd be really, really awesome.

Jason Frazell:

Yeah, I'm jealous.

Jesse Terranova:

It'd be really awesome. We have, we had 12 spots. And we have eight filled so we have a couple more left Jason.

Jason Frazell:

Oh, yeah. So now we're gonna make it even worse for me.

Jesse Terranova:

Well, listen, that's for right so you can bring your two kids and your wife Oh my

Jason Frazell:

God, nobody else in this church wants to have our two year old that would. You're like this is gonna be a great group of people. And then like our like the Frizelle clan shows up people like, why is there a two year old here? This is the biggest buzzkill of all time. And we were making fun. Oh, man. You're like supervise me, buddy? We actually this is the kids trip. Didn't anybody tell you?

Jesse Terranova:

Can you imagine a trip for parents with their kids?

Jason Frazell:

I don't know. Well, Disney does this now. It's called Disney adventures. Yeah. Yeah, of course they did.

Jesse Terranova:

Yeah. Yeah. So again, connection. creators.com. And then I spend most of the time on Instagram when I am trying to, you know, promote and market and connect with people. And jealous Yeah, I get that connection creator is Yeah.

Jason Frazell:

Yeah. Awesome. That's cool. We'll put all that in the show notes. People can connect. You know, like, find out more about what you do. And Jesse, I just want to say I'm so glad we made this happen. I was really inspired by the story you shared. It's not common on this show that people share that vulnerable a story when I asked them what else we want, what else you'd like us to know about you. So thanks for being open about that. And it's a pretty awesome story. I feel like this is a this is a movie or a tale. This is like some sort of like, montage waiting to happen. When you're the movie about you the autobiography about you that a movie about you is created there's going to be this is going to be like the hero's journey of like, oh my gosh, and there it is Terra Nova street, you go to very cool. So Jessie to leave us today. What words of wisdom do you have for us and let's keep it short, like a little Instagram post and has to fit in the graphics of the Instagram post.

Jesse Terranova:

I have I love wisdom. I love learning and sharing so, but I'll keep it really short. I'll keep it really short. I'd say seek beauty. In everything you do.

Jason Frazell:

Beauty and everything you do. You imagine if everybody just did that

Jesse Terranova:

would be an awesome place. The world would

Jason Frazell:

be an awesome place it is. But if everybody is an awesome place, imagine what we can achieve. Yeah, I'm trying to think where I'm not seeking beauty. And I'm sure there's a whole lot of spaces, or places where I'm like not seeking beauty as well. But Jessie, thank you so much that best of me. You don't need luck. Best fortunes to you all at connection creators, all the people that are going to join you on these adventures. I will be thinking about you in Patagonia when you're there in December. I may or may not bring our two year old. We'll see. You're drinking them all back. Enjoy whatever it is you're going to do there. I'm sure it's gonna be amazing. Thank you so much for being on. It has been a real pleasure.

Jesse Terranova:

Thanks, Jason. My pleasure. Thanks for having me.

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